A conversation with three California vintners; Steve Matthiasson, Raj Parr, Jared Brandt--and three on-premise retailers; Atlanta's Jesse Kirkpatrick, Charleston's Femi Oyediran, Chicago's Nik Wells about this nebulously defined term and its relevance, understanding, and enjoyment.
Produced by Matty Rosenberg, Jennifer Hammoud and David Furer at Radio Free Rhinecliff
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